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If I'm falling into a trap, it certainly cannot be the same one.

How is your trap functioning? Are you saying that because we cannot precisely define consciousness, we cannot make any conclusions about it at all? Or that conversely, we should assume everything is conscious?

The scientific community continues to operate without certainty in many major areas that are deeply consequential, but that does not prevent us from exploring the problem space with the tools we do have.

There is plenty that we do know about the subjective experience of consciousness in biological creatures, human and otherwise. For it to even matter that a computer might be conscious is a construction of our subjective reality and our intuitions about why it is meaningful that something is conscious.

We've studied the relative complexity of thousands of species and understand enough to know that some species are a lot closer to humans than others.

But all of that is a giant deviation, and I'd argue has no bearing on the core point: the entire notion of copyright and the legal system it is built on are deeply, intrinsically, inherently human, and originate from the framework of human subjective consciousness, individual and collective. If the fact that the software is AI has any bearing on whether or not the unlicensed use of artist's content is acceptable or not, it must imply some elevated status of the software above ordinary software. It is that elevation that must be explained, and the explanations thus far have all been some form of "it's learning like a human".

Even if we were talking about a fully conscious AGI right now, we'd still need to have a conversation about what its consciousness means, and in what ways it is or is not compatible with human consciousness. Before that, we'd need to have a conversation about the ethics of commanding conscious AIs to do our bidding, but I digress.

We know not all consciousness is the same because we know to avoid grizzly bears.

Unless you're making an argument for Panpsychism, in which case this is an entirely different conversation :)



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