Someone that wants to bring a gun with an intention to hurt people is going to bring one anyway. There's no stopping that.
By visibly signalling "no guns", you're just drawing attention to yourself.
Nobody was going to bring a gun to your event. Those kinds of people likely aren't interested in your event to begin with as it's a different demographic.
By advertising that guns aren't welcome, you just created drama and an intense desire for people that were never interested in the first place to suddenly find themselves involved and to want to deliberately break your rules.
You just created a situation.
In any case, I use Rust for most of my engineering work these days. I just want to have Rust conferences and meetups in my home town of Atlanta. I don't want drama.
> By advertising that guns aren't welcome, you just created drama and an intense desire for people that were never interested in the first place to suddenly find themselves involved and to want to deliberately break your rules.
> You just created a situation.
That sounds borderline victim blaming.
Someone decides that their conference is safer without guns, advertises to not bring guns as a requirement for entrance and now it's their fault for creating a situation. It doesn't make sense. Because the opposite: ban guns and don't advertise it, would just create another situation when someone came with a gun...
The gun nuts create a situation, they can choose to not bring a gun or not go to the event, they choose to be overly dramatic about it or not.
What other basic right of agency should it be ok for you to control?
You're quite hung up on guns but it's not about guns it's about anything that's none of your business.
I think religion and religious thinking and ideas are more dangerous than any guns. Let's count the bodies and the misery if you th8nk that was a silly statement. Do I get to thow an event about a software programming language and have an AI scan everyone's internet footprint and exclude anyone that my AI determines is in any way religious? Or just assume we have thought scanning tech that can just show it as directly as frisking someone for a gun. Do I get to do that?
I hate religion as much as the next person and one can argue about the number of deaths that religion has caused, but a religious person attending a convention is unlikely to directly cause other convention goers to die during the convention. Unless armed with weapon such as a gun. And if they suddenly start preaching and converting you can escort them safely off the premises.
Anyone can carry a poison or a pathogen or simply be highly trained and know a lot, no need to carry anything, or even be obviously muscular.
I suppose it must be reasonable to bar anyone who knows how to lock doors and start fires, or mix cleaning supplies. Assume we had an equivant way to scan for it like a metal detector or a frisking.
If you disagree that potential is a good enough justification, would you agree that private citizens should be able to own nuclear bombs? If not, why? If you do think citizens owning nuclear bombs is reasonable, I don't think we will find common ground.
> Anyone can carry a poison or a pathogen or simply be highly trained and know a lot, no need to carry anything, or even be obviously muscular.
Try attending a conference openly carrying a bucket of arsenic or a bottle of anthrax. Or just a jerrycan with gasoline and some matches. Or wearing a bomb vest and wielding a machete. I like to imagine you will be sent away. It's not like guns are unfairly targeted here.
When those other methods of murdering people are as common in the death-statistics as firearms (such as the "killing spree by a muscular martial artist" one you propose), perhaps we should worry about them more. But they are not, so banning guns is the most logical step to increase safety.
No matter how many times you remove the top of any list, there is still a top of the list. It accomplishes nothing.
True, carrying a pail of nerve gas, or even merely gasoline, somewhere out of context will be prevented generally for it's mere potential, but there are several things about that:
It was a remarkable out of context event, not someone merely existing as they do all day every day, where their weapon is a part of them like their wallet or their knowledge.
You don't have to carry anything large that is detectable without a rather invasive search which you cannot perform outside of maybe North Korea.
You don't have to carry anything at all. The danger is all in the will and abilities of any individual.
Saying nuclear bomb is a form of Godwin's law. Merely saying it at all exposes that one is not arguing from meaningful thought or data but pure hyperbole and emotion.
I don't really care about guns at all, but I don't mind those that have opinions on either side of the argument. I prefer those without strong opinions one way or the other, because I care more about finding fun things in common.
I really think the Rust Foundation is acting childish. They should be the bigger party. They're literally rubbing this issue in everyone's face for no reason, and if you read the blog posts or watch the videos - this isn't even limited to guns. They're preventing all sorts of Rust activities. You can't have a "Rust and Anime" meetup or a "Rust Robotics" meetup.
I'm pretty sure from a legal standpoint the Rust Foundation has just prevented Rust meetups on the Georgia Tech campus. That's really smooth as we've had meetups there up to this point.
By visibly signalling "no guns", you're just drawing attention to yourself.
Nobody was going to bring a gun to your event. Those kinds of people likely aren't interested in your event to begin with as it's a different demographic.
By advertising that guns aren't welcome, you just created drama and an intense desire for people that were never interested in the first place to suddenly find themselves involved and to want to deliberately break your rules.
You just created a situation.
In any case, I use Rust for most of my engineering work these days. I just want to have Rust conferences and meetups in my home town of Atlanta. I don't want drama.