Yes, there is in fact not even a JRE for quite some years now.
Also, Oracle being a minefield is just bullshit - they are the ones that open-sourced the platform completely to the point that their paid version is only marginally different, but OpenJDK is the reference implemented. They are surprisingly good stewards of the language.
> Employee for Java SE Universal Subscription: is defined as (i) all of Your full-time, part-time, temporary employees, and (ii) all of the full-time employees, part-time employees and temporary employees of
Your agents, contractors, outsourcers, and consultants that support Your internal business operations. The quantity of the licenses required is determined by the number of Employees and not just the actual
number of employees that use the Programs.
https://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/pricing/price-lists/java...
Excuse me, but isn't that a minefield?
Another point I don't want to use java: Now I have to understand what is Java SE and if the runtime falls under it or the development tools or how my users use the software, whether we now how to license every user that won't even use that program and even any people that interacts with our business. Pure maddness.
Are you using Photoshop without a license as well or how is that relevant? This is about Oracle’s JDK you specifically have to install and have a paid license to (actually, they also provide a free version if you stay on the latest LTS release at all times), and is meant mostly for governments and such.
Will you uninstal linux because Red Hat has a paid support version as well?
Do you have to buy a license for a regular Linux kernel? No. The exact same is true for OpenJDK. Just download any, for example one that is packages by your distro, or there is sdkman for developers to let you quickly choose from multiple vendors and any version.
> To run your Java 8 application, a user needs the Java SE 8 Runtime Environment, which is available from Oracle under the Oracle Technology Network License Agreement for Oracle Java SE, which is free for personal use, development, testing, prototyping and some other important use cases covered in this FAQ
How is this free? Of course I don't need to pay for Linux kernel. Of course some products feature paid support. But how can I justify the quoted text that Oracle JRE is free?
I was going to say to the guy that decided there must be no Oracle Runtime at our company (some software doesn't work without it, I have no status if workaround has been found) - Hey, maybe Java SE is just the support/patches stuff and maybe we can use runtime? Until I stumble on that text - free for personal use, etc...
You're confusing Oracles JDK and JRE with OpenJDK and that JRE. Oracle takes the OpenJDK and recompiles it, whitelabels it, and licenses it under their own license. The OpenJDK which is where all the development occurs is true open source.
If you want to use the Oracle runtime you need to pay Oracle. But the code itself is open source and you can instead use the Azul, Amazon, Red Hat, BellSoft, etc.. runtimes.
Finally got to the answer. So it IS paid from one particular vendor. I understand there are free options. But that makes it a mine in a field if you are not knowledgable enough. It went this deep into threading to really get an ack that there is a big red O' mine in there.
And there is one piece that wont run without big red O... :(
> But that makes it a mine in a field if you are not knowledgable enough.
That seems like looking for a problem where one does not exist to be honest.
The peer comment regarding RedHat is spot on. Yes you can purchase a Linux distro from RedHat and pay lots of money.
That doesn't mean anyone will argue with a straight face that you can't run Linux for free!
It's the exact same scenario with Java. You could pay Oracle for a Oracle JDK if for some reason you reall want to, but approximately nobody does that.
The vast majority of Java is open source (Open JDK). You can get builds from Amazon (coretto), Microsoft, Red Hat, SAP, ... that do not stupid licensing requirements of Oracle.
> they are the ones that open-sourced the platform completely
While I agree with the bullshit claim, Sun was the company to open source Java. Which itself goes back to IBM blocking the community process in order to force an Apache licensed Java implementation, Sun releasing the OpenJDK made most people happy without killing its embedded cash cow.
completely is the important word — there were plenty of paid-only tools back then that were part of OracleJDK but not OpenJDK. Oracle made them open-source.
This is just the public perception. Being a full time Qt dev feels more and more like using Oracle software, where the software itself is FOSS and free to use, but the company behind it makes it look like it is not, with all the negative press.
Also, Oracle being a minefield is just bullshit - they are the ones that open-sourced the platform completely to the point that their paid version is only marginally different, but OpenJDK is the reference implemented. They are surprisingly good stewards of the language.