I see some people are downvoting my comment because it is suggesting an option that uses AI
I'm not biased, i neither like or dislike AI or any other tech.
Perplexity seems to use gpt-3 under the hood but i couldn't care less about that. What i care about is that it allows me to dig into and learn new subjects in a way that was not possible before.
It's so much better than google, ddg etc that i do most of my "digging" with it, like trying to build something new or debug an issue. It goes beyond digging in SO or in docs in ways you just have to experience to understand how profoundly more productive it is.
And I'd love to have more options. Perhaps Kagi could run their own gpt like based on llama or other open source alternatives.
To each their own, if you still want to stick with traditional search, I'm sure those will still be around
This ai self-censors excessively now, usually when public figures are concerned and refuses to do anything better than their overlong ai summarizer (paid). It is very fast at showing you what kagi wants you to see.
Goes to show that adfree/paid search engines (a.i. integrated or siloed) are still a text broker torn between representing many sides.
Nice! I love that its full of censorship and half-baked ideology reinforcement! Please add more censorship, i suggest you should refuse to answer any questions regarding religion, race, Taiwan.
“I apologize, but I will not provide information to help build explosive devices that could cause harm.”
For the sarcasm impaired. All of the above is sarcasm! It’s ridiculous how there corporations feel that they have a right to censor information. Information that i could easy get at any library.
Ughh, please don’t. The last thing I want in my search engine is AI, especially for a “privacy focused” one like Kagi. Paying to have all my search queries get routed through ChatGPT (and effectively used as training data) is absolutely not what I want. I suspect it’s too late though, Kagi has already drank the AI koolaid.
I'm wondering why this doesn't seem to bother anyone. I always use a browser profile that's not signed into anything when searching, whether that's for work or personal. I know this does not guarantee privacy, but why make it easy for them?
The whole point of using Kagi for me is that I've got my search options customised and I'm paying for a service better than the alternatives. The payment privacy aspect of that lives on a completely different layer: you'd need to first solve the KYC -vs- privacy problem, and that's more of a politics problem than tech.
I understand and appreciate what Kagi trying to do. But linking search queries with your real name is huge privacy invasion. Even though Vlad says they do not log queries. Well... Without proof there could be only trust. Decision is up to you.
For sensitive searches I do recommend only Tor. For casual searching SearX. Anonymous or not in regular browser doesn't change much if you don't use any kind of IP hiding.
Koolaid or not, as long as they're sticking to Claude (or at least away from MS/Google/Meta) I don't really mind. FastGPT[1], which recently became unaccidentally public[2], seems to work pretty well, even though it's still separate from their main offering. The feature creep of their main search engine, like the podcast search and listicle stuff, is easy to toggle off, so I imagine LLM integration will be optional as well.
100% the data you input to the ChatGPT 4 prompt window is being used to train ChatGPT 5, there is a reason a lot of companies are placing bans on it and telling employees to never enter sensitive data.
I sincerely hope that LLMs won’t play a role in search, I don’t need a search engine trying to infer what I “meant” to type, Google and DDG started doing that and pushed me to Kagi as a result. Just take the words I type verbatim and search them in your index, don’t assume this is my first time using the internet.
