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I'm honestly surprised how brazenly they are doing exactly the thing they had 10 years of legal trauma from previously again. I mean, something different, sure. But exactly the same thing????!


They even force TCPA, sorry, TPM. The thing we fought so hard against 20some years ago. 20 years later they just do it again, and no one protested. No one.


It‘s basically a 100% different workforce working on these things now…


The world has changed - everyone does it nowadays and gets away with it so MS can do it too.


If you keep trying the illegal thing, maybe you'll get lucky and be allowed to do it.


Everyone else seems to be allowed to do it, so they might as well try again.


Just assume there's a spreadsheet prepared by a lawyer, engineer, accountant and executive who directly calculated the value.


Western democracy has been successfully subverted by capital, and they know it. Now the screw-tightening begins.


Tech companies in the US have significantly more lobbying power now. Microsoft will be fine. HN is amazingly ignorant and about political economy.


They don't have a monopoly anymore.


https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/europe

77.5% is definitely a "dominant market position". That is the term that matters, people just like to use the word monopoly instead (note: if lots of people use a word "incorrectly" the meaning of the word changes).


The way I've understood current enforcement is that what matters is "proof" of detriment to the consumer.


That differs between the US and Europe. The legal issue is abuse of dominant market position (just having the position is, of course, legal). The EU cares about any "detriment" for customers, competitors, employees,... . That used to be the case in the US as well, but over the last decades they switched to caring only about a specific niche and generally doing very, very little.

End result: Lots of big, successful companies that do shady things and only the EU intervenes and then is the bad guy.

Look at any of the threads about fines for Facebook or the like and you will find many replies to the effect of "The EU is just jealous and should not fine successful American companies".


I'm not talking about the laws, but enforcement.

America has the same laws, basically, as when Microsoft was found guilty.


Are you sure about that? Last time I checked, Windows was still very much the dominant desktop operating system.




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