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If they are so behind they could make it open source instead of open weights and get some help.


Fully open-source means also providing open access to their data sets? Which is the only valuable thing Twitter (X) has left.


> Which is the only valuable thing Twitter (X) has left. reply

They have a very valuable user base (all kinds of world leaders for example), so the data is not the only valuable thing they have.


That’s actually more valuable. Twitters data of small format text is awful for training. Best to just exclude it.

There are hundreds of millions of people on Twitter, and a few of them are very smart. I don’t see how that helps here though.


It doesn't help here. But the person your responding to is just pushing back against the "Elon destroyed Twitter and there's nothing left" narrative.


I don’t see difference here.

Userbase and their social networks and interactions is the data.

They don’t have much value from advertising point of view anymore.


And the one thing they are vehemently protecting from scrapers and other entities. Even nitter threw in the towel.


It's all open source. You can download the model and run it locally.


Being free to use doesn't mean it ships with the original recipe.


What do you mean? The entire model and architecture and executables are fully open source.

The training methods are nothing secret, right? The architecture is well known.

Expecting the entire training dataset to be fully open is delusional.


> Expecting the entire training dataset to be fully open is delusional.

Right, because its not like the training dataset was built off comments posted by all of us in the first place.

How ungrateful we are, to demand the ability to access what was unconsentually built off our hard work in the first place.


https://help.twitter.com/en/using-x/about-grok

"How was Grok trained?

Like most LLM's today, Grok-1 was pre-trained by xAI on a variety of text data from publicly available sources from the Internet up to Q3 2023 and data sets reviewed and curated by AI Tutors who are human reviewers. Grok-1 has not been pre-trained on X data (including public X posts)"




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