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Uses the JVM is exactly why Clojure is the Lisp like language I mostly bother with.

What matters are ecosystems and not languages on their own, so when switching between languages it is a great benefit that I can reuse my Java ecosystem knowledge, instead of adding yet another ecosystem to those I jump around between projects.

However, I really like the almost Lisp Machine like experience from using Raket.



IMHO, the Lisp Machine experience is completely different. Those have zero educational aspects, they were designed to write large, and stateful, applications, where the Lisp Machine OS is the big stateful object-oriented operating system (like Symbolics Genera). Interlisp-D is even more different.




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