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You have to have a smartphone these days. All 2FA use a smartphone and Authenticator apps. Companies actively deprioritize human agents in favor of automated ones. If this comes to pass, you will live with the risk of your information being leaked out by government incompetence - which they will try their best to cover up and blame you.

Edit: No power given to government rarely not become something grotesque. US social security cards were “only for benefits”, now they are some ubiquitous identity number. In recent times, Covid vaccination cards were supposed to “only a patient record” until everyone started demanding them. So if your information starts leaking out your “conformance” will follow one way or another.



You can use any TOTP authenticator implementation you want for 2FA.

Recently, implementations for PalmOS and J2ME phones featured on HN [1], among others.

Password managers such as Bitwarden or 1Password also feature implementations.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40279305


You've totally missed the point of the post you're replying to.

How do I opt out of all of this bullshit?

I just want to go back to paper forms and letters mailboxes and stuff.


Uh, by just doing it?

You can still file your taxes and apply for benefits on paper, if you’re so inclined.

Banks and government departments still have phone lines.

You can still send letters to your friends or call them on the phone.


Dude, restaurants don't have fucking paper menus anymore. And how am I supposed to pay for something if they don't accept cash?

Like don't tell me that you can stil live life the old analog and paper way, you know that is quickly becoming a thing of the past.


Most restaurants have paper menus if you ask.

If they don’t accept cash, don’t patronize them? Also, a debit or credit card isn’t a smart phone, so I am not sure what you are arguing for here.

You have a choice to vote with your wallet and not go to places if they don’t have services that match your needs.


So you're saying that it's no big deal that I'm losing the choice to do this stuff because while i'm loosing the choice I haven't fully lost it yet so I still have choice for a little while until I don't?


Yes.

Businesses are not obligated to do business with you.


But they can and are obligated in how they do business with you.

https://www.nyc.gov/site/dca/consumers/Prohibition-of-Cashle...


San Francisco Police Code article 55 - cashless rule

https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/san_francisco/latest/s...




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