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There are reports from Ukraine that US supplied drones (both civilian and military) have not been effective — and this from a country that has been able to put drones made of cardboard to good use!


> reports from Ukraine that US supplied drones (both civilian and military) have not been effective

Source? To my knowledge, we’re not sending anything newer than the Iraq War to Ukraine. That means decent missiles but crappy drones.


There have been several such reports this year; here’s one I quickly found with a web search: https://www.businessinsider.com/us-drones-glitching-getting-...

US is sending all sorts of gear, not just dusty stuff from the back of the shelf. Sure, there would be reapers, but also modern stuff from switchblade drones (in use since 2010) to Phoenix Ghost (designed a couple of years ago).

one way this war has been calamitous for Russia as it has shown NATO how unprepared they are for Russian electronic countermeasures. Let’s see if NATO can learn and adapt in time.


> To my knowledge, we’re not sending anything newer than the Iraq War to Ukraine.

Not sure what specific drones have been sent, but we're definitely sending stuff newer than the Iraq War; heck, Ukraine has received the newly-developed GLSDB before US forces got it for other-than-testing use.


> heck, Ukraine has received the newly-developed GLSDB

And in real combat it turns out that the Russians have easily suppressed them with GPS jamming. Also the steerable artillery.

It’s useful to the US to learn this before they try to depend on it in combat themselves. They’re going to have to switch to vision.


Why would slow, large aircraft be able to operate in a theater with massive amounts of uncontested advanced anti-aircraft weaponry present?

US doctrine involves SEAD and immediately obtaining overwhelming air superiority, not being confined to the ground or artillery duels.

Look no further than day 1 and 2 of Desert Storm - Ukraine hasn't mounted an operation even remotely resembling the scale or complexity (and can't.)


Yes, that is US doctrine, but Iraq and Russia are hardly comparable.




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