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I want a simpler feature:

Auto-detect people not using headphones, and prevent them from speaking. Until they put some one.

Ideally showing them some customisable scolding message.

So far, any feedback / echo cancellation I've encountered just makes everybody's life miserable. Degradation to non-duplex voice (because all except the loudest speaker are attenuated down), "seaside noise" effect", etc.

This is the reason why a phone call over GSM or landline still often "feels" better than any HD video call with people on screens: Low-latency duplex audio.

Most* of this goes away if you just wear headphones.

Maybe this can be fixed by making the algorithm way more complicated, as the announced feature does. But I'd be surprised.

[*]: "Most": 2 people with headphones sitting near each other still cause echoes for each other and other participants. Fixing that is truly novel, and needed even for headphone users.



And then there's another nag prompt if bluetooth headphones/mic are detected. The latency on those things can get horrendous, up to like 300 ms.


Exactly!

I was shocked to learn that the latency from laptop to ear is higher than to the other side of the planet.

Most people don't notice the adverse psychological aspects of this:

People get really annoyed by when constantly talking over each other. It subconciously makes you dread talking to the other person.

When everybody is using wired headphones, you suddenly like your coworkers more!


And then there are apps/OSes that set the mic gain at like 5% of max, so everyone else has to put their volume at 95%.

We should probably get off hacker news and just start building a teleconferencing app.


Since it’d be twice as good as Meet, we could call it Duo! Oh wait…


More than twice as good it would "zoom" past the competition... shit.


I guess I'm just not talking, then.

This is the part where I mention how Bose, despite making a $300 headset, didn't put a pin/wire on the wired connection for the mic.

(I usually use the laptop mic nonetheless, though, because for some reason if you want to record audio with bluetooth, the quality of the audio output becomes potato.)


This would have 90% of the employees revolting within hours of instituting; for a very good reason.


The thing though is that it's entirely possible to have a setup with loud monitoring (e.g. performers on stage with floor wedges to hear the music and themselves) using speakers. It works well with directional dynamics and stage condensers close to your mouth, but fails horribly with the omni ECMs on your laptop/webcam several feet away.

I love my WFH setup with a dynamic right in front of my mouth and have the system properly rung out so I can monitor myself with no feedback. The cartoid pattern greatly reduces the sound coming from the off-axis speakers and the noise gate takes care of the rest. Obviously this isn't for everyone though and good luck having something this in the office unless you have a room with a door.




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