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The essence of a startup (tomasztunguz.com)
35 points by ttunguz on June 4, 2012 | hide | past | favorite | 17 comments


They are neither art nor design. Startups are businesses. And a business exists to profit. Nothing else.

Also, a startup does not aim to solve a problem in an industry. That is a common but rather poor approach. A startup aims to profit by filling a need in a given marketplace. Two different things altogether.


I agree that startups are businesses. But the idea of the product, the kernel of insight, is design.

I'm not sure I understand the difference between solving a problem in an industry and filling a need in a market place. Could you clarify?


The basis of a product is design. But design is not art. Design is engineering. Even UI design, a process commonly thought of as artistic. That is where I disagree with your point. I don't reason anything in a startup is about art.

The difference about solving a problem and filling a need is pretty simple. You don't profit by solving a problem. You profit by filling a need.

Problems inside industries may not have profits hidden inside. But needs, everyone always has money to solve their needs. Your job is to find those needs and engineer a product that fills it.

Edit

--Added this part from my workstation. The text above was from my phone (makes it harder to type in detail).--

Everyone will always have problems. You solve one, two more pop up. The very nature of problems make people be wary of any solution that aims to solve them. And to be frank, a lot of people dont even want to solve their problems. Businesses also share this.

Now needs. Well needs are something entirely different. Needs are wants. What people want, they pay to get. Your job in a business is to find those needs, and give the need what it wants. In software, a need may be to save them money on their accounting. Why is this a need? Maybe the business owner wants to buy a new car, and he/she needs the money to get that new car. There is no problem to solve. Their accounting might not need to be solved. But the owner has a need for money to buy the car.

Find those needs. They are the key to profits.

Note: You posted below before I edited the post.


Yes, agree 100%.


Typing in my phone is frustrating. I end up writing differently. It makes me compress ideas into short sentences to avoid the pain of writing with the poor UI.

It may seemed like I was trying to debate your point, but I agreed from the start. Now that my hands are free to do so, I wanted to let you know.

Would you be willing to expand your original post? It was rather short in nature.

Also, mind sharing an email? Mine is on my profile.


It isn't particularly surprising that a designer would see the essence of a startup as a metaphor for design. The artist, the scientist and the business executive probably think the same thing except substituting their own discipline. We all tend to evaluate the world as it revolves around our own perspective.


If he'd said that the point of a startup is to make something other people want instead of something only you want, few would disagree. But it obscures rather than clarifying this point to drag in some imagined distinction between art and design.


I don't think the distinction between art and design is imagined. That's the point of the analogy. Art is an individual's expression to the world. Design is solving a problem with a unique point of view - at least in Hara's words.

I am pointing out the parallel in art and design is identical to the one of "making something only you want" vs making "something other people want." The difference is understanding and eventually empathy.

In my view, that's the key to a successful startup.


My point is that this parallel doesn't exist, because the person you quoted is mistaken. The relationship between art and design is complicated, but they are closer to orthogonal than opposites.


"The essence of a startup lies in the process of discovering a problem shared by many people and trying to solve it."

In the above sentence, you could replace 'startup' with so many words and it'd still be valid.


Example?


Possible ideas that come to mind: a movie producer, a philanthropist, a technical writer, a mayor.


Business, for one.


medical research


Startups are just businesses, most of them are uninspired and uninspiring as a concept, as a product, as a model, as a website, as an application, as a solution, even if they use words like startups.


This is great. Design is so important for success. I can't stress design enough for myself and for those I'm working with. Great design or else.


Upvoted for the words "Startups aren’t art. They are design."

As an aspiring entrepreneur, it's comforting to hear other people who share that vision




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