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I still wonder how an alternative world, where BSD won instead of Linux, would look like.


We already have a fairly good idea based upon corporate actions today.

Look at Mac OS. That's what happens when freedoms don't have to be honoured. Corporations have spent a lot of effort trying to work around the GPL, whether it was via network services or something else.

If everyone had gone down the BSD route we would have been there, just a lot quicker. This is why I would never licence any of my work as anything other than GPL or AGPL (dual so that people can pay to avoid GPL, but they still contribute financially).

This is all a team effort to make the world a better place and BSD is too idealistic.


It's arguable that macOS going Unix had a halo effect that did more for Linux and open source than if they stayed on a completely propietary stack. There is a ton of cross pollination between mac and Linux software, at least on the command line.


> It's arguable that macOS going Unix had a halo effect that did more for Linux and open source than if they stayed on a completely propietary stack.

But that's not relevant to the parent's point, which is "If all open source, such as Linux, was BSD licensed, then only proprietary unixes would be common", which I happen to agree with.

Linux would have been further behind because all the proprietary unixes could take the best parts, without giving back (like Apple did/does with BSD), and all those thousands of full-time employees working on Linux would have created value for the shareholders of their employers, not value for the Linux users (like they currently do now).


>and all those thousands of full-time employees working on Linux would have created value for the shareholders of their employers, not value for the Linux users (like they currently do now)

But aren't the biggest Linux users companies? They use Linux for their data centers, for the mobile phones they sell.


That is basically irrelevant to the point that was made though.


>> and all those thousands of full-time employees working on Linux would have created value for the shareholders of their employers, not value for the Linux users (like they currently do now)

> But aren't the biggest Linux users companies? They use Linux for their data centers, for the mobile phones they sell.

Yes, and? I am not seeing the point you are trying to make ... those "biggest Linux users companies" are making large contributions to Linux. That is, in fact, the point of the GPL - that they make their contributions to all linux users, not just to their shareholders.


I don't know who would argue that.

There was a lot of Unix already, and Linux ate it's lunch by being a simple recompile away.

MacOS does a lot to try and hide that it's a Unix.

> There is a ton of cross pollination between mac and Linux software

Do we have any good examples, because Apple spends a lot of effort breaking cross platform compatibility?

> at least on the command line.

There is a lot of Linux command line software ported to MacOS, but I can't think of any good examples for the other way around.


Apple does a good job staying up to date with UNIX standards, it is the devs that live in GNU land that get surprised.

https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/


I'm not sure who you are talking to, I didn't say anything about Apple not keeping up with Unix standards.


>...Apple spends a lot of effort breaking cross platform compatibility?


Which is half of a sentence and distorted the question.

> > There is a ton of cross pollination between mac and Linux software

> Do we have any good examples, because Apple spends a lot of effort breaking cross platform compatibility?

BuT aPpLe aRe UnIx CeRtIfiEd.

Doesn't mean there is any cross pollination from MacOS to Linux.


Most likely it would be business as usual for all UNIXes, taking what they would feel like from BSD, as they were doing before during the whole AT&T vs BSD base model for UNIX architecture, like how Solaris evolved, or Windows used for its initial TCP/IP infrastructure (until Vista).




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