You do realise there is more than "renaming variables" to refactoring don't you?...

irahul · on June 10, 2012

> You do realise there is more than "renaming variables" to refactoring don't you?!?

You do read before responding, don't you?

>> Other than renaming(which can be done for ruby, though it requires manual effort), there is no refactoring which Java does better than Ruby.

rabbitfang · on June 10, 2012

>> Other than renaming(which can be done for ruby, though it requires manual effort), there is no refactoring which Java does better than Ruby.

Perhaps you could name this mysterious IDE which you claim provides reliable refactoring support for Ruby which is equivalent to the refactorings provided by Java IDEs? RubyMine is the best one I've seen http://www.jetbrains.com/ruby/features/index.html, but it doesn't match what can be done in Java.

irahul · on June 11, 2012

> Perhaps you could name this mysterious IDE

Is it just you, or does everyone using eclipse take "what eclipse does" to be refactoring?

I didn't mention IDE even once. A small part of refactoring can be done by eclipse. Rest of it is to be done by the programmer.

I am not a Fowlerian, but this is the only reference I could find. http://www.refactoring.com/catalog/index.html

Eclipse helps with a small subset - rest has to be done by the programmer. And most of it is easier to do in Ruby than in Java.

Compare the ruby edition http://www.amazon.com/Refactoring-Ruby-Edition-Jay-Fields/dp... to the java edition http://www.amazon.com/Refactoring-Improving-Design-Existing-...

On an average, ruby code ends up easier to modify and concise.