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I actually do think that whoever becomes the next president has huge implications for all tech companies in the US and even abroad. E.g. the whole issue of AI regulation, UBI in case we get to AGI / SI soon, all sorts of tax issues etc. depend on it, not to mention that the president appoints a lot of judges...


I don't think so. I hope for the US people that they will be able to sort out their internal strifes without a civil war.


US politics is intimately connected to technology.

1. This election will play a big part in what regulation is imposed on AI. The Democrats are more in favor of ethical and privacy limits on AI. The Republicans see AI as a crucial technology for the US to maintain military superiority and want to see a pretty much anything goes approach to get there.

2. There are similar large differences in how the parties approach privacy in general.

3. One of the common areas of technology discussed on HN is EVs. One party wants to encourage adoption of EVs. The other wants to discourage that--their VP candidate says EVs are a scam wants to cancel EV tax credits and give a $7500 tax credit for purchasing ICE vehicles.

4. They are also very far apart on areas of business law that massively affect technology companies, such as antitrust.


Highly recommend this post be unflagged. Politics directly affects technology startups, as I'm sure everyone here is aware.


I'm glad to have read it here, it's newsworthy to me, but I don't think the discussion would be worthy. Maybe it'd be nice to have those two be disconnected.


It does however effect the global markets, probably visa access to U.S. schools and companies including YC, etc…


Dang has flagged it and it's been removed.


That's not how flagging works. If enough users flag a story, it's automatically killed, not killed by moderators. The active moderation tends to be suppressing the flagging on some amount of controversial stuff.


In the mean time, there are new posts about this same subject appearing on HN which are not flagged, linking to CNN, NYT etc. But the very first post, linking to the primary source, was flagged. Seems unfair to me.


"Tech < VC < Politics" is a very common career journey for higher-ups for a reason: Politics affects VC intimately, and VC affects tech intimately.


I guess flagging it will just lead to endless resubmissions...


Per the HN guidelines the rules for the site are whatever hackers find interesting


Dang has flagged it.


No he didn't.


Need to refresh.


Dang doesn't flag stuff. He can just kill them if he decides to. It was flagged by OP and probably others.


You're right.

Dang said as much in the mega thread[0]

[0]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25017129


That's definitely not true.

The moderators can flag, delete or promote posts as they seem fit, without any transparency.

And of course there are some users that have the flag button which is a super-downvote button (more like downvote and remove).

The community has some input, true, but not as much as on reddit, definitely not as much as on 4chan.


Re-read it. It may've changed since you last read, but general politics is off-topic.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html



The presence of that thread disagrees with which point?

Please re-read this sub-thread.


"Off-Topic: Most stories about politics"

Note, most. Not all. Big stories such as these are, I'd say, on-topic.


Yes.

Who's arguing with you?


You are. We can see this earlier in the thread.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41026902


You made a blanket statement that wasn't reflective of the HN guidelines.

That nuance was lost on you then. And my nuance about general politics was lost on you, also. Existence of exceptions is implied in my comment.


It was unclear from your post whether you were agreeing or disagreeing as to whether this was "general politics" or not.


Still, nobody (at least not me) was arguing with you.


I'm not sure what you're expecting from this discussion?


I can't mindread your assumptions for a loaded question.


Ah, we have something in common, then.


I never asked a loaded question.

Your comment doesn't follow at all.


You've now had multiple people respond to you about your post, all trying (in vain, it seems) to help you understand where the initial confusion occurred, and you continue to either willfully misunderstand, or maybe it's some ESL thing? Or maybe you're just a bored troll? I don't know. Either way, not going to continue responding.


Stop acting in bad faith.

Other commenters replied to the same parent, challenging their claim.


“Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, *unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon*”

Emphasis mine. This is not a “general politics” story and almost certainly qualifies as an “interesting new phenomenon”.


> This is not a “general politics” story

Who's arguing that it is?


Are you being daft? You arrogantly told someone to “read the policy”, presuming they haven’t. And you stated that general politics are not allowed under the submissions policy. I’m pointing out that this is far from general. I think I’ve been quite clear.


You didn't answer my question.

>And you stated that general politics are not allowed under the submissions policy.

It's what the policy says. There's on-topic and off-topic with exceptions. Blanket statements about what "good hackers find interesting" is a partial representation of the policy.

> I’m pointing out that this is far from general.

Going back to you NOT answering my question, I'm not saying this is "general" either.

Obviously, you didn't read the whole thread.


You?

Generally discussion works best around here when each participant only has to explain their own points. If people have to explain your own points to you it makes discussion kind of hard.


And making points for someone else that they didn't make is also not productive for "discussion work[ing] best."

Explaining that the HN Guidelines has off-topic railings (with exceptions) too isn't saying that a tweet about POTUS resigning isn't a valid exception.

I guess people are on tilt because of the announcement.


Another reason to flag is because political "discussions" on HN are as neutral and balanced as on Wikipedia...




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