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It has become a national security concern in the aftermath of the recent UK race riots which were almost entirely amplified by Twitter/X [0][1][2]

[0] - https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_dispatches/from-rumours-to...

[1] - https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/business/uk-riots-social-...

[2] - https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/07/31/southport-st...



In the first link:

In a now-deleted post, one X user shared a screenshot of a LinkedIn post from a man who claimed to be the parent of two children present at the attack. . . . Meanwhile on TikTok, search results for “Southport” recommended “Ali al-Shakati arrested in Southport” as a suggested query that “Others searched for”.

TFA is about "bot-like accounts" but the UK issue seems to be with authentic users. Given evidence of a problem broader than just X, what makes X more of a natsec issue than externally engineered social network applications in general?


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The offender was a Christian born and raised in the UK. Social media amplified a false narrative of them being a Muslim illegal immigrant.

So now rioters are attacking innocent Muslims and their places of worship.


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Obviously because the name looks foreign they must be Muslim. That's how it works.

Nevermind that Rwanda is like 90% Christian.


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You know perfectly well that the rioters attacked a local mosque before the stabber's identity was revealed.


If you think the message that he was a Muslim immigrant murderer had no effect on these protests I have a bridge to sell you.


Why do you believe the offender's name is relevant?


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The picture painted was accurate and relevant

> Self-described ‘news’ accounts rapidly spread falsehoods around the perpetrator. One viral narrative falsely named him as “Ali al-Shakati”, a Muslim migrant new to the UK. This was later debunked by the police. Nonetheless, false claims surrounding the attack quickly garnered millions of views online, galvanised by anti-Muslim and anti-migrant activists and promoted by platforms’ recommender systems.


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Can you tell us what it is really about then?


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"It is illegal for me to explain my position" is some grade-A bullshit my friend. I'm still laughing at the sheer chutzpah at trying to make that argument. It's got that "I can't fight you because my fists are classified as deadly weapons by the government" level of teenager argument.


It's the law and being punished more severely than murder in most cases. It's also unnecessary because all of you know what this is about


There are plenty of examples of people being arrested for expressing anti-immigrant sentiments in the UK.

Here’s one example but there are thousands of examples like this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13714445/amp/Crackd...


The guy wasn't an immigrant though. Born and raised in Britain, as per the higher comment in the chain


I'm just saying that the comment saying it's illegal to talk about this stuff in his country is entirely plausible, there are lots of examples of people being arrested and jailed for saying the wrong things about this situation.


Well then quit beating around the bush and say what you mean. How are the actions of a Christian, UK-born citizen relevant to the Muslim refugees who were being harassed and abused by British race rioters?


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Would you please stop? This flamewar is not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


sure dang, I'm the bad guy now :D


So your point is that the rioters aren't misled or ignorant, they're knowingly and voluntarily committing acts of violence & thuggery in the streets against innocent people on purpose? Not exactly a sympathetic bunch if so. ;)


so it's always been about misinformed white people violently rioting in protest of a perceived invasion by non-whites? we know.

those people who are rioting and think they're being invaded - what are their thoughts on europe's colonial history?


That doesn't make him a Muslim.


One person, a British national born in Britain, not muslim.

The riots were driven by rumours conflicting with these facts rapidly spreading on social media.


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The rumours saying that a muslim immigrant had committed the stabbing were not in any sense "true"

My great grandfather came from what is now Czechia. If I commit a crime would one blame immigration? Would rumours that an Eastern european committed it be "true" ?

The riots were driven by racism and anti immigrant sentiment inflated by social media rumour-mongering.


Can you be more specific? What's the rumor, and what is true about it?

What connection does the true rumor have to attacking Muslims?


Yet there were multiple instances of rioters checking whether car passengers were white or non-white with the threat of violence [0], mobs attempting to pull foreign origin drivers out of their car [1], and multiple attempts to burn down hotels that housed asylum seekers [2][3].

In most these cases, they were aimed at Brown/"Muslim looking" people, with the slur "Paki" heavily utilized.

All of those are felonies that would be tried as attempted murder in the US (and absolutely will be in the UK as well).

[0] - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/far-right-ra...

[1] - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj622z0w7n0o

[2] - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjjww791xnlo

[3] - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/aug/04/riot...


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We can all see you have zero intellectual honesty, but I still can't help but ask; with your finite time what do you think you are achieving here?


Don't post disingenuous arguments. You know perfectly what the difference between triggered and amplified is.




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