No, I'm talking about writing an OS kernel, compiler, math library, networking stack, CAD software, simulators, etc. These are engineering heavy challenges and absolutely software engineering. This is exactly what I'm talking about... no one sees the invisible software that rarely ever fails. Yeah, petsmart.com has errors, but it's incredibly unlikely it's due to a routing stack software failure (failure, not misconfiguration).
>No, I'm talking about writing an OS kernel, compiler, math library, networking stack, CAD software, simulators, etc
Oooh. I see what you're saying. But these people aren't called software engineers either. They're called "programmers".
>These are engineering heavy challenges and absolutely software engineering. This is exactly what I'm talking about... no one sees the invisible software that rarely ever fails. Yeah, petsmart.com has errors, but it's incredibly unlikely it's due to a routing stack software failure (failure, not misconfiguration).
Software engineering is about solving problems. For example the problem of attention was solved by people on tik tok. Or the modern dating problem was solved by people who work on tinder. These are what I term "real" engineering problems. Something like CAD software or OS's are more ephemeral stuff that nobody ever thinks about so these kinds of things relegated to programmers or coders.
