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		vel0city on Dec 18, 2024 \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: Microsoft Confirms Password Deletion for 1B Users I mean, I get what you're saying about from the user perspective the pin is the login, but the under the hood nuance makes things pretty different in the end when thinking more about what's happening. Same thing with a fingerprint with a passkey to some service. The fingerprint itself isn't the login; you can't just go to any phone and press your finger and log in to the service. So the fingerprint isn't the login, its a part of the process on that particular device to unlock that particular saved credential that logs you in.

recursive on Dec 18, 2024 [–]

I think another, more technically correct, way to say it is this:

In some cases, a PIN can be used to achieve the same effect that the corresponding credential can.

I think normal people care about some of these cases sometimes.

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