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Curious, which virtue do you think the author is signaling?


The sort of language policing taking place in TFA is a club: a blunt-force social weapon that (predominantly white) leftists use to keep each other down, by emphasizing the recipient's lack of ideological purity, manifested in this context by being insufficiently sensitive to the possibility of hurting someone's feelings. It's also a great way to make oneself look like one supports causes like anti-racism or decolonialism without having to actually do anything that would require effort or material change to one's lifestyle.

For example: "spook" was allegedly used at some point as a slur against black people, so if you have ever used the term "spooky" in a Hallowe'en context you have committed the immortal sin of doing a structural racism.

To the underemployed university administrative staff who have never experienced real hardships, this sort of thing is a Big Deal(tm), except we can't call it that because it's insensitive to short people. Correction: people experiencing heightlessness.


> The sort of language policing taking place in TFA is a club: a blunt-force social weapon that (predominantly white) leftists use to keep each other down, by emphasizing the recipient's lack of ideological purity, manifested in this context by being insufficiently sensitive to the possibility of hurting someone's feelings.

To this, I call out the case of the words Spanish speakers have been using to refer to disabled persons.

The word for "disabled person" was at a point in time deemed too insensitive and an outright insult, so around the 1970s the word "subnormal" started showing up even in government acts to appease the virtue signaling crowd.

Except that after a few years the word "subnormal" also managed to find itself as a prime example of a gross PC violation, and therefore they coined the term "minusválido" (i.e., "less than valid", a milder form of "invalid") to appease the PC gods.

But lo and behold, "minusválido" is now also looked poorly by the PC crowd as being offensive.

https://languageacts.org/loaded-meanings/schools-teachers/ri...


Pinker wrote about this process, nothing to do with political correctness.

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/euphemism_treadmill


Hell even discapacitado (disabled) is incorrenow. Now correct is “person with different capabilities”


>disabled persons

How à propos, because in English "disabled" is no longer acceptable and they now demand that you say "differently-abled".


"Differently-abled" feels '90s corpo to me. The disability rights people I know pretty much all favor "disabled" or "with disability" and have for many years.


Who is "they"? I have never in my life heard this demand.


The sort of people who make careers out of this type of thing: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/words-and-phrases-comm...


Even that ridiculous thing doesn't have "differently abled".


Ironically that feels kinda rude to me. Like if I wasn't able to walk, I would want people to aknowledge that... instead of pretending that I just move differently.


Well.......if you weren't able to walk, you would be moving differently, not exactly pretending would it be?

I mean hell it's not even a less accurate description, you're not able to walk but you're able to move around using crutches or a wheelchair or other mobility device. A person who isn't able to walk may still be able to do almost everything day to day (well aside from walking) that a non-disabled (or non-differently abled person, ok that sounds kinda weird) person would be able to, albeit in a different way.


Because it somewhat removes that implication that that different way is harder to live with.


Literally no disabled person says "differently abled".


Of course not, but the language police don't care about disabled people.

These are the same people who publish "inclusive language guides" with garbage like "don't use the term Brainwave because it's dehumanizing to people with intellectual disabilities".

It's an entire R&D field dedicated to finding new and creative ways to be offended.


Ah, so when you said "they" your pronoun didn't match your antecedent. Makes sense considering no one on this site seems to know what a pronoun even is anymore.


I was never taught English grammar and have no clue what an antecedent is, nor any clue how to make a pronoun match it.


Eh, I think “People with disabilities” has now taken over, the idea being to emphasise that they are people.

It feels… inconsequential.


Euphemism treadmill is real and never stops.


George Carlinwas calling it out in the 90's https://youtu.be/o25I2fzFGoY?si=0a6rXtCboK-suL-4


It's interesting that so much of this comes from academia but they exempt themselves from so much of it. The moral panic over the use of the word "master" in any context somehow turned a blind eye to master's degrees. Academics felt their usage was ok by their own ever shifting relative criteria that everyone else is expected to constantly contort themselves to follow. Very convenient how that works for them.


People (mistakenly, I believe) thought that "master branch" was derived from the disk and database "master"/"slave" metaphor, which had started being eliminated years earlier. "Master branch" was also a fairly recent coinage (within my career) limited to a few specific tools, so changing it wasn't moving mountains.


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The two parties in the US are each half a human, twisted and dying... driven by the effectiveness of negative campaigning and the destruction of competition over reaching consensus, unable to reconcile the merits of self-interest with the understanding of collective responsibility, bringing on the doom that lurks in the wasteland of destroyed trust and mutual respect.


The progressive "virtue" of aggressive anti colonialization.


Sorry, I havent heard of that one. Can you explain how it's virtuous?


It's not, hence the scare quotes.


I'm not quite connecting the dots. If it's not a virtue then I'm not sure how it would qualify as virtue signaling. What am I missing?


It's politics. It doesn't have to make any sense. These people have grievances and they want everyone else to hear them. They're pissed off they're being asked to have empathy for others, and much like children they're incapable of it.


Virtue signaling doesn’t have to be done with something that’s actually a virtue, you just have to think that what you’re signaling is perceived as a virtue by your target demographic.


Moreover an article isn't neccesarily virtue signalling merely because an internet forum user stridently declares it to be.


Also true. But just saying „but what he’s signaling isn’t actually a virtue, how can it be virtue signaling?“ isn’t a very good argument.


Sounds like “virtue signalling” has the same definition as “hipster” did in the early 00s - a proxy for “something or someone I don’t like”


It’s certainly sometimes used that way. But the real meaning is something like „making sure everyone knows how moral you are without making a lot of effort to actually be moral, just by telling everyone“.


By that definition the linked article doesn't fit, then. The author has put a lot of effort into research and writing about this subject. The "morality" part is a relatively small part of it, just a single paragraph in the conclusion.


I’m not saying that it’s virtue signaling, I was just criticizing the bad arguments against the claim that it was.


These days the word is "woke" or any of its variants.


I struggle to differentiate commenters muttering "radical wokeism", "virtue signalling", etc from dogs barking at cars.

Non constructive noise from creatures with desire only to chase something.


What perceived virtue do you think the author is trying to signal? How do you separate it from a true belief? It seems like you'ld have to have access to their mental state, no?


Policing the language to avoid harming oppressed people. This is not a real virtue though as there's no actual harming and the only thing it does is creating animosity, annoyance and pointless arguments and causing people to hate each other needlessly, without helping any oppressed people in any way.

> It seems like you'ld have to have access to their mental state, no

Of course, absent communication, that would be the only way. Fortunately, communication - such as written text - allows us to let others to witness certain aspects of our mental state, this is one of the points of communication. So, present the communication, we can make certain conclusions about the mental state of the communicator.


Virtue signaling isn’t necessarily lying about your belief, it’s overtly making everyone aware of how virtuous you think you are, and that you’re morally superior.

The signaling is just pointing it out to make yourself look better, it doesn’t mean you’re lying.


It sounds really weird that critics cannot place themselves in the shoes of the virtue signaler and describe where the virtues or morals are being communicated. I'm repeatedly trying to abide by the site guidelines by getting curious rather than disagreeing. It's like some sort of ideological opposition is causing a mental barrier to empathy. I still don't understand it, but some day I hope to. Thank you.


You're beginning to look very, very, wilfully obtuse.


Yes, I think we’re in Sealioning territory now. Most of these questions would have been answered with a quick skim of the Wikipedia article on virtue signaling.




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