And also implies an always on connection to the mothership that can push arbitrary content to the infotainment system (which we can be sure is totally airgapped from the CAN bus right? right?)

https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-hig...

From the article.

> “This was an in-vehicle message designed to inform Jeep customers about Mopar extended vehicle care options. A temporary software glitch affected the ability to instantly opt out in a few isolated cases, though instant opt-out is the standard for all our in-vehicle messages. Our team had already identified and corrected the error, and we are following up directly with the customer to ensure the matter is fully resolved.”

So everyone can put down the pitchforks now, unless you are assuming deliberate malfeasance.

Ads in your car should be opt-in, so the pitchforks are warranted.

ads in a car should not happen, period, even if stopped. just because you're not moving this instant doesn't mean you shouldn't be paying attention.

imagine you get to a stop sign, come to a complete stop, and then an ad pops on right as you're trying to figure out if you should make that right turn

hell, the loud crash bang honk sounds on radio shows and radio ads have been banned in many places for that reason.

That used to happen every morning in the DFW area, right as I'd be driving to school. Drove me absolutely nuts.

I think that pre-traffic-report sound effect probably contributed significantly to me purchasing a new head unit that let me play mp3s off burned CDs.

Ads in your car should not. Must not. Can not. Shall not. Etc

People should not even entertain the stupid idea

An ad with a (theoretical) opt out is still an ad. I don't want to see any ads, especially in a paid product.

When it comes to advertisers, there is no reason to assume anything but deliberate malfeasance.

Aka the "Skip for now"/"Remind me later" button.

I suppose the "Fuck off forever" action is to crash the car through the window of the dealership...

I don't know why some one would go for the low hanging fruit of the dealership.

It should be corporate headquarters' window ...

Luigi's playing Mario Kart now, I see...

What if you don't connect your car to the internet in the first place?

I'm guessing it comes with its own connection via its own (manufacturer-paid) SIM.

So remove that? Or disconnect the antenna from the modem?

you can’t without hacksaws and circuit modifications. you’d also lose map updates and any software updates.

You mean modern cars aren't designed to be easily serviceable?

I mean yes, but also do you want the tracking module easily removed? it needs network access. do you want cars to be easier to steal?

If their server forgets the saved settings during routine maintenance i.e. once a month.

That’s the Facebook model. They keep resetting privacy prefs, or creating new opt-out ones.

This and the reports of build-in options that are software disabled; this is such a dystopian society.

Holy shit, you will have to pay me a lot of money to accept this in my car.