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Jesuits love to play these motte and bailey mind games - ask him if he thinks Jesus actually performed his miracles or not.


Would a true divine miracle be a suspension of order or a manifestation of it?

Will it ever be possible to prove that some future human theory of reality is complete?


A miracle, by definition, transcends the nature of the thing in question. The cause is not attributable to the power of the thing effected or anything in the world.

If God is distinct from what is created, then a miracle cannot be said to be a manifestation of what is created. Pantheism, on the other hand, must deny miracles, because God and the universe are one, and so all apparent miracles are merely unaccounted for manifestations of reality and perhaps explainable by "some future human theory of reality".

Since Jesuits (ostensibly) hold to a Catholic view in which God and the created order are distinct, they must therefore believe that miracles are not only possible, but do happen. The question is then largely whether a particular effect is miraculous or not.


This is what I mean.

Please let me know how a world with miracles is any different from creationism, which apparently religion needs to be protected from.




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