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At some point you have to blame the driver model on Windows. People have been saying "it's the drivers" for 30 years.

Also most of this is intentional first party behavior from Microsoft. Windows intentionally periodically wakes from sleep to do communication (for notifications etc.) Microsoft's advice last I checked is to not store sleeping laptops running windows in laptop bags.

There's a ton of other decisions they've made that just make the OS incredibly unpleasant on any device with mediocre cooling and a battery. That's why I wrote post: is it bad enough yet that it's intolerable.



> At some point you have to blame the driver model on Windows.

Serious question, specifically what is wrong with the driver model in terms of this situation? What change would you propose to solve this? Why isn't it a matter of the device manufacturers churning out crappy and poorly tested devices and solely Microsoft's fault?

I do agree, Microsoft should probably make it easier to point out "hey this device is causing your system to wake, here's some potential fixes", as reading the powercfg /sleepstudy takes a little bit of deeper computer knowledge. But in the end a crappy driver and bad hardware is going to be a crappy driver and bad hardware. Should Windows just refuse to work at all with said crappy hardware?

Especially considering I've had so many other devices which don't have these problems. If it was truly the OS that was at fault, why isn't the issue with every device running the OS instead of only some devices with some hardware and firmware versions?

> Microsoft's advice last I checked is to not store sleeping laptops running windows in laptop bags

Got an official source for that claim?


https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/2318281/...

> Therefore, we highly recommend that all customers do not put the Surface in their bag while sleeping, as this can indeed cause overheating.

> Best Regards,

> Mitchell | Microsoft Community Support Specialist


Posted by: Anonymous

Yeah, real official documentation there.

Got anything more real in terms of documentation other than a forum post by anonymous?


S1 S2 S3 S4 sleep modes and what happened to the most useful of them ;)




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