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There are so many reasons to hate Zuck. But bringing up something he said as a teenager in a private conversation is one of the dumbest reasons.


It was a comment revealing his attitude towards what would soon become his customers in a globally-impactful business over which he has sole control. It’s more relevant than ever today.


"Let every 40-year-old be measured by the shittiest thing they said when they were 19"


In most cases those comments weren’t about the service they still running at 40. His comment was also him self-reporting that he shouldn’t be trusted with user data, when his whole business revolves around user data. If it was some off color joke in poor taste, I wouldn’t care so much.


Even if he said something in his role as CEO of Facebook?

"Young people are just smarter" and so on...


He's an entirely different person now. There is no one under the age of 45 on the planet who would say "you know, yeah, I'm fundamentally the same person I was 22 years ago."

I'm not saying he's a better person. Just different. Judge him by what he says and does now, which is no better.


I feel that I fundamentally am the same person. More experienced, of course. Less naive and idealistic. But my sense of right and wrong? Pretty much the same.


You can be an asshole at 22 and still be an asshole at 45. You might be an asshole in different ways, but an asshole is still an asshole. As I'm often reminded of myself


Yes, that's exactly my point.

Here's the neat thing. If someone is an asshole at 45, you don't need to reach back to when they were 22 to find evidence of them being an asshole.


Donald Trump famously said in his 70s that his personality hasn't changed since he was a child. I'm sure there are others like him.


The things Donald Trump says are sufficiently untethered from reality that whether a given statement is truth or lie could be used as a pseudorandom number generator, so I don't know if that statement counts for or against my claim.


I don't disagree with your point, but nothing is absolute. In this case, he's essentially done a tremendously good job of showing us since then that, no, we can't trust him. He's more than lived up to his words.


Me, as a teenager: "I am building the Torment Nexus, and I am calling it Happy Kittens Inc."

Me, 10 years later: "I am proud to unveil Happy Kittens Inc."

You: "That's the Torment Nexus."

My irrational fans: "There's no reason to bring up something he said as a teenager."


Is there any proof that he said that, apart the movie? I'm not arguing he didn't, but the only place I've found to support that is the movie. I didn't try very hard either...



Thanks for the link, but I can read that, too many intrusive ads. I'll give it a go when I get to a computer.


Goalpost mover.


Was that in the movie? I thought it came from emails released in court.




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