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Would it work if it were real time? You light up, and five minutes later a manager knocks.

Dunno about the legality of refusing to open the door, but it does sound like a way to get banned from a hotel chain.



Yeah, that’s totally fair. At least they’ll have testimony that the smoking was actually witnessed. Most people aren’t going to even bother fighting that since it actually happened. I just worry about abuse cases and the most obvious one here is false positives being assumed true by everyone who profits from them.

Edit:

Sorry, that’s from the wrong point of view but I don’t think the answer changes. It seems Rest will have to change a lot of their marketing language to really avoid liability but if someone is actually caught smoking then it’s not likely to manifest.


The great thing about that kind of human validation is that if they get a lot of false positives, the managers will start ignoring all of the alerts.

It would be unfair to charge people with just a black box algorithm. But a few door knocks could fix that, one way or the other.


Is it reasonable to make "use your body to test for carcinogens" part of the manager's job description?


Yeah really, I mean look at how the global population died out in the 1960s because someone walked past them with a lit cigarette.

You realize there's a difference between cigarette smoke and mustard gas, right? Standing at the door of a room that someone smoked in will have no effect on your health whatsoever. You need to be standing in the room, while they're smoking, preferably for a few decades.


people from the 60s die every day


Yeah, six decades later.


shockingly it's been happening since about 1959


But not because they walked past someone smoking a cigarette.


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You assume I'm a smoker based on the fact I point out the mindless paranoia people believe, and casually wish me to die.

Is that the kind of person you want to be?


No, I believe you're a smoker because you implied so in another thread.

I'm not wishing your death any more than you're wishing death on hotel managers. Except you want to smoke more.


I say that hotel managers won't be in danger of health risks from brief exposure to cigarette smoke. I provided reasons why. Thus, I am not wishing their deaths.

You ask me to smoke more, hoping it will hasten my death. Insert "we are not the same" meme here.

So again, is this the person you wish to be? Do you wish death on everyone that points out flaws in your arguments, or just smokers?


Actually I was hoping to make you uncomfortable by pointing out that you know you don't even really want to smoke


That's quite some projection you have going on there. I quite enjoy smoking, for your information. It's inconvenient at times, but so is everything I enjoy.

The "all smokers secretly want to quit" routine is another tale for the gullible.


What do you enjoy about smoking?


Why not ask someone who actually likes you? I'm not the only smoker who enjoys it.


Because you're special


Generally you have no rights in a hotel to prevent entry.




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