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Indeed, been there. Just getting the dishwasher out of its cubby hole is a major effort, and involves dealing with not just the wiring but the hoses too. And if it's an older house, chances are good that the dishwasher had to be crammed in with a certain amount of hacking, cussing, and persuasion.

The fridge rolls out into the room on its own wheels.



Many dishwashers are supposed to be wood-screwed into the surrounding cabinets! Recently installed one for a friend and was surprised to see that instruction.

Meanwhile, with the exception of ice makers/water dispensers (1/4 PEX), fridges don't have to deal with hoses for the most part. So much easier IME.


> Many dishwashers are supposed to be wood-screwed into the surrounding cabinets!

That's so they don't tip forward when a rack loaded with dishes is pulled out. There's a fair bit of forward leverage in that weight distribution.


Hum. The countertop will prevent that. No need to be screwed.


A lot of fridges in Europe are integrated into the kitchen cabinets, similar to dishwashers.

So I'd say they face the same kind of issues.


This must be dependent on your country's customs, I suppose. I've taken out dishwashers quite a few times and it was actually fairly easy. No wheels, true, but cables and hoses were never much of a problem in my case.


Nah, dishwashers are pretty light too. With a muscle mass of 1% I usually just flip it over to work on it. This is just peak HN, PhDs still phased by something requiring an 8th grade level of education. In the US, the supply is usually a screw on, the drain a clamp and if the wiring isn’t already a quick connect just throw some Wagos on.


Dishwashers are ok, depending on flooring - if you want to get it out and guarantee no scratches on the floor, it may be simpler to get some kind of "dolly" mechanical assistance.

Washing machines, on the other hand, tend to have a brick in the bottom to stop them from walking around on their own.

(periodic recommendation: if you buy a Miele, you will pay twice as much for several times the expected lifespan of a cheaper machine. My parents have a Miele dishwasher that's over 30 years old.)


Unless the fridge is sitting on the subfloor/slab and a floor was built around the fridge, blocking it in.


We're talking like a couple hundred pounds. Push back on the top, pop in two 2x4's (one under each side, lengthwise, not across), then let it down and walk it forward.

I just changed the casters on my 42U rack, without moving (or shutting down) any of the machines. Now that required some deliberateness.


Amen. I put my dishwasher in myself so I get to curse myself for that hacking.

Worst was sourcing the parts though. Getting the thing out, effectively getting it up on blocks to run it and see the issue was hard work. Getting the specific totally non-standard o-ring size out of the manufacturer was impossible. In the end I resorted to siliconing but I just cannot dump something like that over a 5c part.


My partners bought a house with a dishwasher. Apparently it was installed, then a new floor put in raising it about an inch effectively locking the dishwasher in place. Removing it involved removing the counter above (it needed replacing..) but your comment brought back some memories(lots of cussing)




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