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NYC has a bigger population than the entire country of Ireland. It definitely has the economy of scale to operate public transport and education.

> There are many more layers to the difference between where the US sits and Europe. Hopefully this is obvious.

It is exceedingly obvious. The reason for my comparison wasn’t because I think they are the same place, I was responding to a commenter who said North Korea and Kabul were appropriate comparison points for Mamdani’s plans. My point is simply that immediately invoking North Korea is hysteria.



> NYC has a bigger population than the entire country of Ireland

New York City's economy [1], were it a country, would sit at No. 18 in the world between the Netherlands and Saudi Arabia [2].

The only EU members with economies larger than its are the Netherlands, Spain, Italy, France and Germany.

(New York City's budget [3] is bigger than the military budgets of every country on the planet except for America, China and Russia's [4]. On par with the budgets of Ukraine and the Philippines [5].)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_New_York_City $1.3tn

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi...

[3] https://council.nyc.gov/press/2025/06/30/2915/ $116bn

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest...

[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_governmen...


So it's gonna be the city-state of New York?

I guess we'll watch this experiment unfold.

Appreciate the data points though but I think a city is ... a city. We don't usually talk about "economy of a city" because it's not that meaningful. If NYC wished to become a country I guess they can go for it.


> So it's gonna be the city-state of New York?

> I guess we'll watch this experiment unfold.

None of this is new, though. Mamdani being elected will make no difference to the scale at which NYC operates.


> We don't usually talk about "economy of a city" because it's not that meaningful

You cited “economies of scale and ability to exert control at the levels of government these policies usually exist at.” New York has those.

The point at which it becomes “not meaningful” is well after the point that most countries in the EU turn into rounding errors.


Just saw a bunch of funny videos with people asking NYC bus drivers if the busses are free already and they all having a good laugh at that. Supposedly the MTA has $48.4B or so debt: "The MTA's long-term debt was around $48.4 billion in late 2023, a figure that has grown from $25.8 billion in 2010."

Looking at the financials they are already subsidized to the tune of >50% : https://council.nyc.gov/budget/wp-content/uploads/sites/54/2... ... So the city needs to find at least $7.5B a year just to keep growing their debt at the same rate. But that's ok- if every person in the city just pays another $400 or so a year in taxes they'll get that covered. Socialism...




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