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aurareturn
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Are they profitable on their LLM training?
It's not clear. Z.ai is definitely not profitable.
atwrk
60 days ago
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To my knowledge none of the players is even profitable on
inference
, though Google probably is, considering the continuous release of papers around kv cache optimizations, mtp etc.
aurareturn
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Your knowledge is off. Inference is highly profitable - at least for OpenAI and Anthropic.
atwrk
59 days ago
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I'd be delighted if you can link to actual numbers supporting this assumption, as all reputable reporting says OpenAI's revenue is smaller than their inference cost, e.g.
https://www.ft.com/content/fce77ba4-6231-4920-9e99-693a6c38e...
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It's not clear. Z.ai is definitely not profitable.