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> And unfortunately, America made it clear it wants to harm average Iranian.

By and large this is not true. The US and Israel have hit Iran tens of thousands of times, and have never hit a pure civilian target on purpose. They've hit dual use targets, and accidentally hit civilian targets, but not ones on purpose. They could flatten Tehran if they wanted to hit civilians.

> Plus its idea of regime change is to keep regime intact and change head (see Venezuela), so there is no one who would had actual reason to want America win.

You're not entirely wrong here, and I've seen frustration from the US side that Mojtaba Khamenei is MIA (or dead).



"A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again" - Sounds pretty wanting to harm the average Iranian to me.


Or "We are going to hit them extremely hard over the next two to three weeks. We are going to bring them back to the stone ages where they belong."


I love this 'death to America, death to Israel' crowd saying 'it's just metaphor' getting so worked up over this metaphor as if such statements out completely out of line.

Did you get upset when the Islamic occupiers took over Iran in 1979 and stated 'we have defeated/ended Persian culture/civilization'?


Did you get worked up over USA throwing down democratically elected president and putting hated king into powe? Because that is what preceeded revolution. This line of reasoning about USA feelings being hurt (check notes) in 1979 is profoundly idiotic. Most people here were likely not even alive back then.

And no, it was not metaphore. Trump was threatening them and stating his intent. Israel wants exactly that too. The claim here is not that iran loves america. The claim here is that Iranians hating on country that put in hated king in 1979 is weak argument about how Trump in 2026 wanted.

For that matter, American army is still murdering fishermen, it is not like it had norms against crimes.


Fair. Still though, the rhetoric does not match what's happened on the ground.


Both USA and Israel hit civilian targets on purpose. Especially Israel who did it also in Lebanon.

Israels attacks on civilian infrastructure are not random or accidental either. They are the literal strategy and goal.

> I've seen frustration from the US side that Mojtaba Khamenei is MIA.

This is just US side being dumb, honestly.




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