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I ran pre AI articles through pangram last week and it gave similar kind of numbers so I think it's pretty bad at distinguishing.


Someone ran the Declaration of Independence and U.S. Constitution through an AI detector and apparently our country was founded by an AI.


I just checked on Pangram and it turns out that the U.S. Constitution is 100% human-written. Who would have thought?

Saying "an AI detector" is a bit like saying "an AI" - there's a pretty big difference between Llama 3B and Opus 4.8.


I KNEW IT!


To the degree that AIs are good at re-creating the style of the training data, you would expect there to be non-AI-generated text that would "look like" AI output.


AI detectors are all garbage, with very high false positive rates.


They use, unwittingly, proxies for "AI" stylometry, with no specific or explicable features they can point to and say "Look! That is evidence that the text is written by AI", as if there were such features in the first place. The best they can do is validate the very lazy one-shot patterns that humans should be able to highlight in the first place.

Anything beyond that - even telling your AI to go use a "humanizer" skill in your prompt - creates a text distribution that is functionally indistinguishable from human generated writing. Throw in the fact that people who use AI will be influenced by the writing, often in positive, beneficial ways, and the software becomes a vicious, punitive tool. It's worse than waving a dowsing rod or pendulum, because the software comes with the implication of legitimacy and fairness.


Pangram is basically a made-up number.

I've tried it on large docs I've written well before the AI times, and that are nowhere available on the Internet (so it can't be a corpus issue) - and it is happily classifying me as 60%-80% AI.


Ai was trained on news and journal articles and this is the reason we see so many em-dashes as well. The side effect is that good writing is now classified as AI generated, which makes it bad writing. What a messed up world we live in


pangram is AI garbage spewing AI garbage


Is that irony? Or did the author just use a tool to help? It would be ironic if the author was unable to write about how the students can’t read.


If teachers could teach, students might be able to read. If students could read, maybe more of them would learn how to write. If more of them learned to write, maybe it'd be inspirational to their peers and future generations.

It's too bad the teachers can't teach.


Its unfair to dump all the blame on teachers. Yes, some teachers could make a difference (and some do), inspire students but that’s also a match made in haven, students need be receptive to learning something that is arduous at first. Id blame most of it on how technology is weaponized/ financialized to steal attention and fill it with junk.




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