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> doesn't seem to have broken any new ground, only mashed together two existing technologies

I'd argue that new inventions are created by mashing existing technologies, often emerging or bleeding edge, and creating something new. Henry Ford didn't invent the combustion engine, transmission, suspension, etc, but he did mash these things together into something new. What we are seeing in the video and research is something new and pretty exciting if you take it a couple steps further. Think about replaying these signals, building a play book, etc.

ps. If you have some time to kill, I would check out this video called, "Everything Is A Remix", which talks about this idea @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coGpmA4saEk



Henry Ford is famous for creating a useful product that people wanted to buy. This is more of a parlor trick. It's sexy, but it's not going to help anyone do anything, nor does it incorporate any significant technical or scientific advances that could be useful to future brain-computer interface development. The authors seem to be aware that it has little scientific importance, since they published it on their website instead of in a scientific journal or on arXiv.


In my experience, the combination of two trivial mashups is an innovation.

Suppose you wanted to teach someone to roll a kayak. In my experience instructing the subject, perhaps a quarter of students can roll instantly once they "know how it feels". If one person can command another's body to do it, perhaps learning would be faster and more efficient.

This work is nifty. It's playful, but the applications may be vast.

If I can send involuntary motion, can I send you thoughts? Can I write as fast as I can think? Can I be forced to do something unwillingly? Time will tell.


I agree with your larger point, but the example is flawed. Ford did not invent the car, he "just" made it much cheaper by inventing the assembly line.


Interestingly he didn't even invent the assembly line; just made it a lot better...


To mash up a few other comments, the main thing Henry Ford invented was the business model of the original Ford Motor Company: Pay workers well (better than average for the time), have them do assembly line labor for six and a half days a week, absolutely standardize on a single product, and sell that product cheaply enough your own workers can afford it.

Cars were invented multiple times, including electric cars, before Ford showed up. Rifles were being made on assembly lines out of standard parts long before cars existed. Being a tyrannical jackass with a perfectionist streak, while perfected by Jobs, was certainly nothing new. Ford just mashed those together along with a framed picture of Hitler and it all worked.


Rifles were being made on assembly lines out of standard parts long before cars existed.

Any time I see a comment like this, I know for a fact that someone does not understand what an assembly line is, nor why the invention of one was important.

An assembly line is a method of production where workers stand still, and the parts that they need come to them at the rate that they will be putting them together. This is vastly superior to previous modes of production because you eliminate all of the time people spend walking around trying to find the next thing that they need. Before the introduction of the assembly line, workers normally spent more time walking than assembling. After the introduction, workers spent more time assembling.

That said, the assembly line was not entirely a novel production. The closest predecessor was in the Chicago meatpacking industry where it took the form of a disassembly line - cows went in one end and standard cuts of meat came out the other. But using it for assembly of complex machinery was still a significant innovation, and Henry Ford deserves full credit for it.

It certainly was not simply applying widely known standardization techniques with interchangeable parts such as was pioneered in the rifle industry and had been predicted by Adam Smith in Wealth of Nations with an example involving pins.


Going back to "nothing new under the sun" there are even some earlier precursors to assembly line: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_Arsenal


Thanks. That is an excellent example and I learned something interesting!




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