Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit | housebear's commentslogin

Love this. What are you tapping the cards onto? What is reading that info and then pulling the music? (I'm not super savvy and can't figure it out from the writeup).


On iPhone, tapping an NFC tag with a URL opens a popup that allows you to navigate to that URL with a single click. If this URL is supported by an installed app, this app will handle this. For example, if you write a URL of a Spotify playlist onto your NFC tag/sticker (which you can also do from the phone via an app like NFC Tools), then bring that sticker to iPhone, it will show this as a Spotify URL, and you can tap on this notification and go to that Spotify playlist. So all you need to experiment with is a writable NFC tag and your phone, no other hardware required. I bet Android phones offer a similar experience.


that’s the right question! i’m surprised no one has asked it yet. part 2 will be all about setting up the raspberry pi with an nfc hat and a ‘read-only’ display as the tap target.


I just assumed they were tapping them on their phone and had some kind of app, or website something


no middleware/app needed. PlexAmp can deep-link to an album with an autoplay parameter, as long as the device with the NFC reader can access it.


I read it as the fish returning her to her God-ordained state, as she was, from her magical-fish-given states of human appointed positions; that is, wealth and status coming from community rather than any kind of divine appointment—which is maybe also a Protestant dig at Papism?


Well, I think you articulate the situation quite neatly with, "I don't know, my life is made better..." As long as you yourself are either benefiting or not immediately suffering you are content. That many contrary positions in this thread are thinking about humanity as a whole is why you will not be swayed. You do not seem interested in thinking outside of your own comforts, and therefore all of the anxiety and alarm over the fate of billions outside of yourself just comes across as "exhausting."

I, for one, find the endless selfishness of ultra rich people and their enablers to be exhausting, and happily root for anyone trying to break through to the uncertain that this is a moment for action, not idle ignorance.


How are you able to make the inference that "most people reading this got real value from an LLM. And I'm sure the author did as well." How are you so sure of that?

Speaking for myself, I've never gotten any real value from an LLM and their disappearance would not affect me in the slightest.

It sounds more like you were upset about his assertion because YOU derive value from an LLM, and are projecting that as some sort of dishonesty on the author's part.

Also, it was his intention to throw "the kitchen sink at the technology" as a means of showing its lack of value. In the same way a vegan would do exactly as you mention to show all the arguments AGAINST eating meat. It is meant to strengthen the intended argument through overwhelming evidence.


Chatgpt was the 6th (and climbing) most visited site in the world in January. Cursor is the fastest growing Saas of all time.

So yeah, most people get real value from LLMs. It's pretty plain to see, for anyone actually interested in seeing it.


As the article mentions, the number of users is wholly irrelevant to the discussion of how much positive value a tool brings to society (also factoring in the costs and negative impacts of the tool). This is a weak argument.


How much value a user gets from a tool is the users prerogative to give.

The user above is talking specifically about how much value users are getting out of LLMs. The number of users who consistently return is in fact a very good argument for the plain real world value being generated by LLMs.


Incorrect, I'm afraid. The "plain real world value" does not necessarily have any correlation to the number of users, so your argument again fails to hold water.

Simply consider the users that use generative AI in order to perform some unimportant work (as I hope is the case, for generative AI cannot produce anything of novelty, by design). If such work held no value to begin with, then through simple deduction you can conclude that the generative AI contributed nothing of value.

The only outcome worthy of consideration was the time reclaimed by the user not performing such mundane tasks (so that they can move on to perform... more mundane work?), in which case one must question the larger scope of process at hand.

This is just one counterexample to your underlying premise for your argument - that you know nothing of how the users use such tools, or whether their use even brings anything of value to the real world.

The point being, the number of users is a number with no meaning. It is a number used to inflate the faux excitement surrounding AI and nothing more. "Falling for the hype", if you like.

Extrapolating your faulty logic, I could say a pornography website is of extreme value to humanity. After all, literal billions of people visit such websites very frequently. This must bring real world value, no? Or cigarettes? Or TikTok?

If your definition of value is derived from self-indulgence, e.g., how much time one can spend away from work with AI, or how much one can smoke because it feels nice in the moment, i.e., the hedonistic evaluation, then by all means, spoil yourself. After all, I don't stand to revoke those liberties anyway.

But understand, that this definition of value is not the same as "plain real world value" by necessity, and as such, the "number of users" is no guarantee.


>Simply consider the users that use generative AI in order to perform some unimportant work

Says who ? I certainly don't use it for unimportant work.

>(as I hope is the case, for generative AI cannot produce anything of novelty, by design)

Another Unfounded Assertion

>then through simple deduction you can conclude that the generative AI contributed nothing of value.

Nonsensical. 'Unimportant work' that people keep doing is work that needs to be done. Getting it done is providing value.

>I could say a pornography website is of extreme value to humanity.

Pornography provides a lot of value yes.


You have once again conflated individualistic values with real world values, and shown bias to personal anecdotes. I am afraid you are simply incapable of understanding so there is no point to discussing this further.


>You have once again conflated individualistic values with real world values

I'm not. It's just nonsensical to think there is some 'real world value' independent of the people said product is targeting in the first place. You don't get to tell people what provides them value.

And by the way, this person I replied to in the first place is specifically commenting on this 'individualistic value' so I have no idea why you thought your comment was relevant if you think such distinctions exist.

You're the one who seems bent on personal anecdotes if anything if your assumption is that LLMs are used for 'unimportant work'. I did not initially bring anecdotes or assumptions into the matter at all.

>I am afraid you are simply incapable of understanding

Whatever floats your boat I guess

>there is no point to discussing this further.

Sure


Where is that additional info? It just says you're a group of security researchers, but there are no names, no verifiable credentials, nothing. You haven't really added any info that would contribute to any real trust.


Exactly. This continues to tell us absolutely nothing.

"Who are you?

We are cyber security researchers, living in the UK. We built cyber scarecrow to run on our own computers and decided to share it for others to use it too."


This is the same board that approved the Tumblr acquisition, presumably. So...a good board...?


They approved the tumblr deal.

Matt promised targets.

Every target was missed and financially the deal was a failure.

The board then stopped any further acquisitions.

I would guess that texts / beeper were cheap and that Matt is looking at a very very long time to profit. He was once a fan of the 'pizza/team' ratio that Bezos/Amazon pushed, so maybe that's where he is looking.


For pennies on the dollar, and for a very specific strategy, which Mullenweg outlined pretty thoroughly.

Did it work? No, but I don't know of any examples of an entrepreneur who bats 1000


Does anyone have an idea of what it would roughly cost to purchase an unused parking lot, tear it up, dispose of the asphalt waste, re-soil, and plant 30 or so trees? Is this something some enterprising person could start a kickstarter for just as a public experiment? Is it even possible with zoning requirements or the like?


Why tear up the asphalt? Wouldn't perforating it with bigger holes cut for the trees be a lot cheaper. Tree roots grow perfectly fine under asphalt and perforation will allow for air and water to reach the soil in a more distributed manner for better growth. Seems like it would be a much cheaper option.


Trees themselves are useful because they support biodiversity such as small mammals, insects, all the useful things along a forest floor. can't do that with asphalt.


In time or money? You can cancel your gym membership and work on it an hour a day


It gets A LOT colder here in Minnesota during winter than it does in Norway. I know we're an edge case for EVs and cold temperatures in the US, but it does seem a significant difference in the EV and temperature conversation. Is there an understanding around the "degree" at which specific degrees affect EV performance?


That sounds a bit hyperbolic. Norway is a long country with multiple climate zones. Average temperature in March in Longyearbyen [1] is 3.4 F. Meanwhile, Embarrass, the coldest city in Minnesota according to Google, averages 8.3 F in January. Cold record in Norway is -60.5F, which is about the same as Minnesota's -60F.

According to folks living in Karasjok, the problem with EVs in extreme temperatures is the 12V starter battery capitulating once you dip below -40F. Petrol cars usually fail to start for the same reason.

[1]. https://en.climate-data.org/europa/norge/svalbard/longyearby... [2]. https://en.climate-data.org/north-america/united-states-of-a...


While this is true, the comparison is meaningless without taking population into account.

Only 1700 people live in Longyearbyen. The majority of Norway's population lives in the southern part of the mainland, especially Oslo, with much warmer winters.

By contrast, the majority of Minnesota's population lives in the Minneapolis-St. Paul metro, which is considerably colder than Oslo or Bergen or Stavanger.


> It gets A LOT colder here in Minnesota during winter than it does in Norway.

As someone who hasn't spent a lot of time in Norway or Minnesota this seems very surprising—if only because the southernmost part of Norway appears to be substantially farther north than the northernmost part of Minnesota.

And the data I'm finding suggests that the average winter temp is about 5 degrees lower in Norway than Minnesota. Though none of the data I've found in a few minutes of googling seems very reliable and understanding that Norway in particular is a big place. The average temperature of Norway weighted by area is surely much lower than it would be weighted by population.

Does the gulf stream have an impact here, at least on southern Norway?


The Gulf Stream and generally just being close to the ocean has a massive effect at making the climate a lot more mild in the North Atlantic.

Not only that, but due to the way the winds move in the US places like Minnesota and the Dakotas also tend to get absolutely hammered from the jet stream by arctic air.


It gets colder in Minnesota during the winter.

https://weatherspark.com/compare/y/68697~10405/Comparison-of...


Worst of both worlds - hotter in the summer and colder in the winter.


Gulf stream but also just being near an ocean at all. Lots of factors other than how far north a place is impact average temperatures. Also, if you're looking at the average temperature of the entire country of Norway versus the entire state of Minnesota, that isn't going to reflect where most people actually live. A whole lot of Norway is Svalbard and north of the arctic circle with virtually no permanent human settlements. Most of the population is in the south on the coast. Most of Minnesota's population will be near the lake, which is still more moderate than deep on the plains, but the difference likely won't be as stark as it is in Norway.

Heck, there is a pretty big difference between the coasts and the midwest even just in North America. I grew up in Los Angeles and currently live in Dallas. Dallas is farther south and it actually does get hotter, but it also gets colder. Los Angeles had seen something like a quarter inch of snow in the past century when I left. It snows in Dallas every year. There was snow last week. Even though the currents in the Pacific flow from the north and the water is cold, it still has a moderating effect compared to living on the plains.


The Gulf Stream has a massive impact so latitudes can't really be compared (temperature wise) in North America and Europe.

Barcelona is actually north of New York City.


Slight tangent, but same issue with the ongoing heat pump hype.

"New heat pumps work in the cold now!" where cold is defined as down to 10 degrees F.

That's probably sufficient for most "cold" places, but in Minneapolis every winter we have multi-day stretches where the high temperature is below 10. Large swathes of the northern states are in a similar boat.

Hopefully we can solve these issues, because I don't want to be left behind technologically and environmentally!


Resistive heaters for those situations work fine. They'll be unused for 95% of the year and are extremely cheap/simple.


Exactly. My heat pump (or rather in this case the air handler) has a single resistive heat strip (but can take up to 4) in it that's used when the temperature is too low. It'll also kick on the heat strip to change the temperature quickly if the target temp is far from the current temp.

The combination heat pump+heat strip does struggle to keep things comfortable when we hit -15, but that's a once a year type deal here, and if it bothered us enough we could add another strip.

Frankly I don't think most of the folks with gas heat fare better during those snaps. Either system can be made capable of course, but it's uncommon enough here that nobody's system is sized to maintain a cozy 70 when it happens.



What temperature difference are we talking about between Norway and Minnesota? Medium and lowest expected temperatures would be interesting.


You know what's easy to read 150, 500, and even 1000 years later? Physical writing on paper. No matter what changes, these documents can and will continue to be legible as long as they're properly stored.


The same can be said for microfiche.


Check out A Canticle for Leibowitz for an entertaining (and often depressing) read on life restarting after an extinction event. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Canticle_for_Leibowitz

"Set in a Catholic monastery in the desert of the southwestern United States after a devastating nuclear war, the book spans thousands of years as civilization rebuilds itself. The monks of the Albertian Order of Leibowitz preserve the surviving remnants of man's scientific knowledge until the world is again ready for it."


And then of course after mankind recovers and rebuilds to the same technological level, they start another nuclear war. Figures.


Time does not repeat, but it does rhyme in a phrase that ends in global thermonuclear war.


Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: