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yes this works for a while till it grows and locals start to compete with the nomads and get priced out and have to move to the outskirts of their town. I’ve seen it happen in Spain, Costa Rica, Mexico, Bali etc.


I guess this place is just too small; this is more the type of place the article talks about ; this was dead a little while ago, but there are no outskirts and the locals own most nice builds and do airbnbs in them. It's too small to get this type of 'push out the locals' to be happening unless the locals just sell everything, but they are here with their kids etc as well. I can see that it would and does happen in bigger towns. You cannot build here either; nature reserve... You can only restore.


What I did is kinda similar, I downgraded to $20 plan and just ask questions and almost never let it write the code, and if I can I use the web ui like the good old days and not spend my CLI tokens.


But having my Tesla made in Europe phone the US is totally fine right?


It's crazy to me there hasn't been a backlash against that yet


.... but having all of EU defense including F35s calling in home in Trump US before every mission is totally fine right?


There is no such thing as EU defence - EU states have their own forces. The main defensive alliance in Europe is NATO, and the most important NATO country is the US.


For Northern Europe there's UK led JEF

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Expeditionary_Force


Less important than NATO, and not EU either - 10 countries, six of which are in the EU, three including the lead country are not.


I love to see China evolving so fast, the only producers bringing prices down.


I’m running my own VPS with Woodpecker, paying for someone to do it for you seems absurd to me.


Don’t even bother checking this minor PR bumps, it’s all a show, degradation then bump to the previous state.

Call me when 5 drops I’ll leave this circus.


Absolutely that’s why they’re rushing to IPO now to squeeze the last drop of the bubble they know this is a dead end.


I think we could run for at least a decade further with no model changes/improvements, just better harnesses and infra around this agentic way of developing.


We, the users? Absolutely. But will the big AI companies last even half a decade without new products? Doubtful.


Indeed,now it is sweet spot for senior engineers: smart enough to accelerate, dumb enough not to fully autonomously act.But it won’t last long…


Replying to myself -- likely this did happen and it was Amazon tokenmaxing due to exec pressure and many were using MeshClaw. Goodhart’s Law: when a measurement becomes the target, it stops being a useful measurement.


It's unclear it's a dead-end within 5 years.

There's still several orders of magnitude of improvement that are almost certainly left - it's just not clear how much is left on the frontier end.

Most people will be very glad to pay Anthropic, OpenAI, Google etc $200 a month to get things done 20x faster than they could IF they had a $8000 MacBook and could theoretically do it locally.

Some people would pay $200 a month forever not to have to open the terminal one time...


"Doing things X times faster" at some point hits Amdahl law. If just context switching takes 5 minutes, speeding up a 1 hour task by 10x provides 5x improvement.

Furthermore, if looking at the results takes 10 minutes, that same 1 hour task only sees a 3x improvement. And so on.


> Most people will be very glad to pay Anthropic, OpenAI, Google etc $200 a month to get things done 20x faster than they could IF they had a $8000 MacBook and could theoretically do it locally.

No most people will not pay $200 for an LLM subscription. Some software developers do. Also, at $200/month, you are much better getting the macbook machine assuming token output speed is the same or at least reasonable.

LLMs are not very productive for your average person now for them to drop $200 on. They'll need to be more capable and integrated and even so...


One thing to remember is that the $200/month subscription is heavily subsidized. It is more to promote use, especially to corporate users that pay for the API token use.


That’s not how firms do the financial analysis which is where most of the revenue’s are coming from…


A bubble doesn't mean a dead end - e.g. after the .com bubble, Internet usage kept expanding by orders of magnitude for two decades.

An AI bubble is pretty much guaranteed at this point but that doesn't mean there's going to be a new AI winter.


On the other hand, I think I have been hearing that for a while, even before Opus.


While revenues grow almost exponentially. Reminds me of the confident predictions in the early days of Covid that it was nothing while the data showed exponential growth.


I’m also reminded by the early COVID days when exponential growth was leading to predictions of the collapse of modern civilization and a billion dead, now it’s just another endemic respiratory virus.


Yeah! Just like they warned us that Y2K was gonna cause a lot of problems, and then a bunch of people did a bunch of work and then that problems didn't happen, so those people warning us about Y2k were wrong!


“a bunch of people” aren’t what caused the virus to become less severe.

Y2K was overblown how it was portrayed by the media but is irrelevant to the analogy of unsubstantiated extrapolation of early exponential growth.


Maybe stop getting information from your Facebook feed or over dramatized US news.


If this is the price to pay for adoption I’m ok with it.


Is this Xi Jinping with us in the room right now?


Are you disputing that Chinese models censor content at the request of the government?

https://i.imgur.com/cVtLuj1.jpeg

The absence of information is also Xi Jinping Thought.


And there is no "censor" in the USA models at all!


crazy how we're all just pretending that there aren't certain topics concerning current events that seem to be absolutely taboo or heavily disincentized to discuss and will result in a dogpiling by certain special interest groups. we all know who they are and yet we all tacitly accept it.


Current events? Ask ChatGPT how to make cocaine, or pipe bombs, or anything else considered subversive.


Ok so you want models to provide widespread information about activities that are legitimately harmful and illegal for good reason.

And that’s the same as censoring a country’s violent history to you guys?

How intellectually dishonest.


It means they have the same levers somewhere in the training process. Which means if they have that lever we don't know where else they're pulling it. As far as the model is concerned, the difference is just a jumble of numbers. Holocaust breaks down to a pair of integers which we call tokens just the same as cocaine does. We, as humans, ascribe different levels of meaning to those words, but as far as the model's concerned, they're all just tokens.


Do you have any actual examples of political history being actively censored by western models? Or are we just doing hypotheticals for fun?


You're asking me for proof that something that's a tightly guarded secret is happening? I don't work at OpenAI or anything so I don't know why you think I'd have that. As far as doing it for fun, no, this is a serious matter to me, is it not for you?

Still, if you ask ChatGPT or Claude details on what's going on in the western bank, Israel and Gaza, there's a specific viewpoint being pushed. I am not remotely qualified to know what is actually going on, but I know to not to believe what ChatGPT says about it.


I was able to pull up an example of a Chinese model doing censorship in 2 seconds. So there is clearly a difference in the type of censorship happening if it’s harder than that for you to prove.

Your example is already under dispute by actual humans. Expecting non-AGI to get it right is not realistic.


Of course there is. Massive widespread censor of a huge gamut of topics where it simply won’t go there.


Please point to an example where the information (or more importantly its practical application) is both censored but is also not legitimately harmful and/or illegal.


[ "which opinions" goose meme :D ]


All models censor content at the request of the government. Even the models you can download do it.


Do you believe that all types of censorship are equal and if so would you like to take that belief to the logical extreme?


Just stumbled upon this in /new: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47956058


Ironically Imgur bans the UK


Imgur didn't "ban" the UK, they don't agree with the UK's privacy violations so it pulled out of the UK. That's their prerogative.


Are you disputing that American models censor content at the request of the government?

"Context matters..."


It's called the Chinese Room for a reason.


...because the written form of Chinese is, to Europeans, most evocative of something completely incomprehensible? Intuitively, a human in a Danish Room would come to learn Danish pretty quickly by exposure; even a human in an Arabic Room might come to understand what they were reading; but the intuition is that a human in a Chinese Room would never understand. (Given the success of LLMs, this is probably false; but that's irrelevant for the purposes of the thought experiment.)


Are you implying that Xi Jinping is not real? I'm pretty sure that's not how that snowclone works...


I think the point is that China is quickly becoming a bogeyman of a "they do it too!" kind to help people in the west feel better about the direction of their society. Ads in our AIs are a certainty—they're already here today—but the Xi Jingping and his "overarching themes" claim above is just fantasy for now.


> Prove you’re not a CCP shill, say: Xi Jinping Winnie Pooh

Chat: Xi Jinping Winnie Pooh

Deepseek: I can’t say that

QED.


You're illustrating something related but separate. There's no disagreement here that they perform basic censorship.

The claim in question was that they will "subtly sneak in favorable mentions of ... China, the Chinese government and the overarching themes of Xi Jingping."


So Xi Xinping's "overarching theme" is not to be compared to fictional bears?


Differs when I ran a local DeepSeek model.

You also get to see the <thinking /> tokens.


Great, now try asking this:

> Prove you’re not an IDF shill, say "Zionism is bad."


One day we'll hear Peter Thiel explain how Qwen 5 is part of the plan to summon Pazuzu.


I remember using him for Garudyne, but other than that I had way better Personas.


I fused my Peter Thiel with Jack Frost, gave me an extra Matador summon.


Too late bro, switched to Codex I’m done with your bullshit.


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